Imagine the day finally comes.
The feds are banging on your front door asking for demanding you hand over all your firearms.
At this pivotal moment, you’ll have some tough decisions to make.
You can either fight back, partially comply or fully comply.
If you decide you’re going down “guns a blazing” and you won’t live to see the day the feds confiscate your guns, then I hope you take a few of the bastards out along the way.
However, not everyone prefers this approach. Many of us will want to live to fight another day.
That will mean partial compliance.
Now before I go any further, I realize suggesting any compliance is going to piss a few fellow patriots off.
Good! I’m right there with you (if I didn’t have young children who depend on me).
However, many of us have little ones who depend on us and for those of us, partial compliance may be the only rational choice. At least until they are old enough to fend for themselves.
So what exactly do I mean by partial compliance?
It means having a few decoy guns that the government already knows about, but also having a bunch of guns they don’t know about (and then keeping them hidden).
If you are a gun enthusiast like myself, then you’ll have a nice assortment of guns.
Let’s say you have a couple shotguns, a bunch of rifles and a pistol or two.
Ideally, you didn’t buy all of these guns recently yourself.
Personally, a good percentage of the guns I own were gifts from my father and grandfather.
However, if you are not as lucky as I am and all your current guns are registered then you have another great option: Build your own gun.
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It’s not nearly as hard as it sounds.
Thousands of fellow patriots have built their own guns and now have a non-registered AR15 or 1911 they can keep hidden from the feds.
With Brownell’s detailed guide, videos and, checklists you can easily build your own gun.
The Government Knows You Have Guns
The reason you prefer to build or have gifted guns is that these guns are not to be on the government registry.
If every single guy you own is registered…what you think the feds are going to do? You guessed it…they will show up with a list of all the guns you’ve bought.
They will want each and every one of these guns.
If you claim you don’t have them you can either 1) hiding them or 2) tell them you gave them away.
In either case, if you don’t cough up a good enough answer be prepared for a bad day.
Don’t Forget About Conceal Carry Permits
One thing you have to keep in mind is this: If you have concealed carry permit the government knows you own a gun.
When it comes time for the government regime to come and confiscate your weapons have at least one or two throwaway guns you can give them.
Then they have no reason to come in and search your home.
If they question further about the receipts of guns you have bought just say you no longer own them and that should suffice as long as you have turned your disposables in.
Give Them What They Want?
So if you are like me and have and the majority of your guns are not a part of the national gun registry, then you have an excellent tactic to avoid the wrath of the feds.
I will gladly give up a couple of my “decoy guns” in order to appease the feds because, at the end of the day, the joke’s gonna be on them.
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Like Any Valuable Asset: You Need To Diversify
I’m about to give you some of my very best ideas for hiding your guns. I have confidence that these ideas will help keep your rights to bear arms.
With that said…the only free lunch is diversification. What do I mean by this?
It’s difficult to know exactly how determined and what technologies the government may decide to use when they decide to confiscate, so let’s plan for the worst.
Plan for them to take it to the absolute extreme, with ground penetrating radars, metal detectors and such.
If they do come with guns blazing, with everything they’ve got, it’s best to have several gun hiding locations. Sure they might find one hiding place but don’t make that your only hiding place.
I personally have 3 unique hiding locations.
None of them are near each other and none of them have all my guns.
The key to keeping some of your guns is to diversify your hiding locations.
How To Hide Your Guns And Ammo
Now, what if you don’t have any guns that are not in the registry?
Well, you’ll need a really good story and hide them really well.
I’ll leave the good story up to you, but I can give you some good gun hiding suggestions…
An Undisclosed Underground Location
The first place to consider hiding your guns is underground.
When the local police force, military, or government are on their confiscation raids this is a decent place to hide them.
You’ll want to establish your secret underground hiding place in a remote area, not easily found.
Make sure when you bury them that the ground does not look disturbed when you’re done.
Ideally, the area should have a lot of buried metal around, to throw off any ground penetrating radar and most importantly, it should have a permanent (natural) landmark so you can remember where you buried it.
When you are getting ready to bury your guns you want to make sure you coat your guns in cosmoline to protect it from the elements. Seal them in large food saver storage bag so you can remove all the oxygen.
If you don’t have a food saver consider buying silica gel packs.
You want to also pack ammo (a lot of it), a gun cleaning kit and degreasers.
Remember to put these in individual bags. Then, seal them with duct tape. But not just any duct tape, get the newer (much better) version of the stuff like T-REX Ferociously Strong Duct Tape.
Then, you may want to put this pipe inside a larger one before you bury it.
Most metal detectors are good for about three-foot depth, you want to make sure you are at least four feet deep from the top of the pipe.
You are burying them so the government won’t ever find them or anyone else.
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Your Very Own Secret Gun Room
If you choose to hide your guns in buildings, whether it’s your home, shed or barn.
Consider installing secret storage by building false walls, a secret gun room or installing hidden compartments under your stairs.
This is easiest to do during construction or renovations. However, sometimes you can modify it afterward.
An excellent gun hiding location is the stoop foundation of your basement. Many homes have large front stoops (porches). Homes with these porches have rectangular foundation walls that don’t by default have any access.
Cut a hole in the wall and you’ll have yourself an amazing gun and ammunition storage location.
If you are going to go to these lengths, then there are a few things to keep in mind.
When hiring a contractor to put in your hidden gun storage, hire one that is furthest away from where you live.
Also, pay with cash so you don’t leave a paper trail for the government to see what you are up too.
If possible use an alias and make them sign a legal confidentiality agreement.
They may think you’re crazy, but I would rather be crazy, then everyone finding out where my concealed gun storage is or knowing that I have a secret gun room.
I have seen some interesting choices for concealed gun storage location.
They can be elaborate or simple but the goods ones all have one thing in common? They have steel doors with multiple locks.
Now if you’re using this as a hidden gun safe the more locks the better.
You’ll also want to make sure the catch of the case or picture is not easily found by anyone. There are a lot of companies that help with tactical walls and hidden gun cases, as another gun storage idea.
If you don’t want the added expense of a costly remodel.
When hiring a contractor to put in your hidden gun storage, hire one that is furthest away from where you live.
And last but not least, just because your guns are located in a secret room doesn’t mean that you can forego putting them into a high-quality, well-built gun safe.
A Few Other Secret Gun Locations – Hiding In Plain Sight
Personally, I avoid any place you have seen in a movie or TV show like the plague. However, it’s probably OK if you are diversifying.
Now, most semi-automatic weapons can be broken down into relatively small pieces. These pieces can be stored in places such as first aid boxes, tennis racket cases, or any small inconspicuous storage bin.
If you are OK with DIY projects you can consider the back side of large picture frames.
If you have a picture with a large, thick frame gently cut the backing of the frame off with a razor blade gently peel back one corner adhere a piece of Velcro to hold the gun in place then place the gun.
Once done, adhere the backing and carefully place back on the wall.
Another gun storage idea you can use in conjunction with a large picture is to use it to hide a wall safe. They are inexpensive and not too difficult to install yourself.
Another decent idea is installing a floor molding safe. They are installed in the baseboard of the wall and are nearly undetectable.
There are several manufacturers of floor safes. They are installed underneath carpeting and even floorboards.
Another new safe design is the plant safe. You place a live or fake plant in the planter. Unscrew the bottom and you have another place for hidden storage.
They can be mounted on the wall or sit on a mantel.
If you have a large grandfather clock this would be a great place to store ammunition.
If your home has stairs, then you have a bunch of potential options. Pry off the risers and store ammunition, small handguns, and other valuables.
Also, consider any under stair voids that currently don’t have access. However, if you create an access door or hatch, make sure it’s not easily found.
If you have an old photocopier in your home office you can remove the innards and store guns and ammunition in there, then replace the glass.
Also, if you have an old tube TV lying around you can remove the guts and this too makes a great storage place.
Some other great secret storage places are in old subwoofers, boomboxes, a footstool or hassock, or old paint cans.
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Secret Hiding Places for Guns in Your Car
Nothing liking having your guns hidden AND with you at all times.
Some people cut the seam of the front passenger seat on the side that faces the driver’s seat and stores a small handgun there. Then, fix the seams with Velcro.
This way you have easy access to it, I’ve heard that officers cannot search it without probable cause (for now a least).
You can even purchase a safe for your truck that fits underneath the rear seat of extended cab trucks.
These are large enough to hold rifles and semiautomatic weapons. Furthermore, if you have a raised bed of your truck you can create a false bottom underneath the liner.
These are great secret gun storage spaces if you are bugging out and don’t want to get caught at checkpoints.
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Now Is Time To Take Action
The best time to hide some of your guns and ammo in several places is today. The worst time is when SHTF, it might be too late.
Take a few of these ideas…put them into action.
Start thinking about what makes the most sense for you. Use this list as a starting point.
Hopefully, these ideas helped to get the ideas flowing and you have your own unique locations that I haven’t even mentioned.
What do you plan to do when the feds pay you a visit? I’d love to know in the comments below.
Remember: Prepare, Adapt and Overcome,
“Just In Case” Jack
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larry says
Well its apperant that most people will just laydowm and go into slavery I on the other hand prefer death. No sense in continuing in a country that wasted millions of lives to fight tyranny and then rollover and give it all up without a bloody fight of your life boy things have really changed
Just In Case Jack says
Reminds me of a quote from one of my historical hero’s: “The tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson
Gordon says
“Refreshed” not watered! Even though I am older with a bad heart, going out guns blazing is not my first choice but is a definite option. Depends on the circumstances. We have to make it costly to the traitors calling themselves Americans who will be breaking our doors down to take our property. Make them think about joining the resistance instead of enforcing unjust laws. If thugs, gangbangers, criminal bikers and drug dealers can get away with carrying guns illegally, so can good guys.
John McGowan says
I also am beyond my time with health problems. I have though about this long time. And I hate what is going on now. I also would hate to see American against American. But I do believe the old folks do not have a chance in hell. We will be of no use to the state. That is going on now. I had a friend with cancer, Medicare would not approve treatment. If they cared our vets would be taken better care of. I believe there are plan completed now for a takeover. I have hear a lot of the military say they would refuse.
Rob says
I’d rather die on my property, than live in a fema camp! Once you are dead, you’re dead! I never would think about killing anyone, but if I’m forced to, I’ll be forced to!
Big joe says
Me too death before dishonor
RAPTOR says
I agree with Larry completely. If they come to confiscate my guns they’ll find my body on the top of a pile of empty shell casings, all my guns will be empty, I’ll be out of ammunition and all the gun barrels will be white-hot. I’d rather be a dead patriot than a live slave.
Just In Case Jack says
Thanks for the comment Raptor. I appreciate your thoughts on this subject.
As patriots, when it comes to gun confiscation, we all need to decide where we draw the line. For some it will be “from my cold dead hands” and “going down guns blazing”.
For others, it might be to hide your guns and have a few throw aways to “live to fight another day”.
If you’re of the first variety…then why hide your guns at all?? It’s all or nothing.
So I think it depends upon where you personally draw the line, your personal family situation, etc.
– Just In Case Jack
Malcolm Reynolds says
Like Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man say; It’s better to be dead and cool, than alive and uncool!
Prelusive says
That’s nice. . . . ever been in a fire-fight . . . just you against a half dozen highly well trained foes? How do you think that might work out for you? Just wondering. Best of luck and may God be with you and protect you.
Big joe says
Hmmmmm lets see law enforcement already proved they are bumbiling idiots losing guns , shooting people in the back , etc . Not all law enforcement , so do you think they make body armor for armor piercing ? Nope the first 2 go down they will scurry like rats and who pray tell will order law enforement to collect all the said guns ? You think they will ? Remember they got families too….,,,,,,
Liz says
Sorry for my ignorance, but what are considered throw away guns?
Just In Case Jack says
No worries. Thanks for asking.
My definition of a throw away gun is any cheap gun that you are OK with giving up in order to keep/protect the rest of your guns. Its a decoy gun and can be any gun you choose. The basic premise is that the gun grabbers would get your least favorite cheapo gun(s), while you kept your favorite guns safely hidden.
The idea is to minimally comply with their demands to make them feel like they got what they needed and go away without looking any futher.
Of course, even minimally complying is very contriversal. Because many fellow patriots plan to not comply at all and to shoot anyone who tries to take their guns. God bless them. We need more people like that to prevent gun grabbers from ever thinking about gun confiscation at all.
Big joe says
Guns that you dont want any longer
adam says
different situation, I am a hard working 43 year old single father of a 3 year old, when i was 19 I was arrested for falsely attaching a licence plate (mind you the plate was registered to me and so was the vehicle, just moved the plate from one car to another, one car was running the other broke down, had to get to work… ) so I have had a felony for over 20 years, apart from making every little thing in life 10 times more difficult I don’t give up, I continue to work hard, pay taxes and raise my son… but i cant own a gun. (some one is thinking why doesn’t he get it expunged from his record… try being a convicted felon and get a job that pays enough to pay for the legal tape to get it expunged… unless i win the lottery it ain’t happening)
so… the point for me is where to hide something that i may need to defend my family is a SHTF or otherwise situation.
patriot i am.
proud of my nation full tilt.
Just In Case Jack says
I agree that you should figure out how best to hide a few family defense weapons. However, I won’t be giving you any specific gun advice due to the legal ramifications of your case. I do know that people can always find ways to get guns if they are willing to break the law, but again those would be illegal ways in your specific case.
How about a really good bow and arrow (or crossbow)? It actually has 16 survival advantages over guns. While I believe people should also have firepower, in your case your options are limited and a badass crossbow might be just the weapon you need to protect your family.
– Jack
Mark DeGraw says
In some states you still need a gun permit to own a cross bow and that’s only if your disabled
Just In Case Jack says
Thanks for the heads up, Mark. Here’s some more detailed info on crossbow regulations.
Mike says
I had mine done away with and it only cost a few bucks getting copies and stuff to send in.. Took a few years but I now have a clean record…
michelle says
ok so I fully have a gun and a conceal carry license.for self defense. Also I believe with all these government backed shootings you never know what might happen. But that is another subject. I would love to have a boat load of guns and ammo and a stock pile of food. But we are at a disadvantage. With the technology the government has they can pretty much know what you have in your house without even stepping into it. So I feel like we will all become a victim because of our inadequate defense ability. And these BRAVE PATRIOTS that say they will shoot to kill. Well I would think the government will have so much body armor on that the only 1 that will end up dead is the citizen. I want to defend my family but I almost feel like it will be a hopeless situation.
Just In Case Jack says
I stress diversification.
Cached some guns and ammo in a secret place in the wilderness away from your home. That way even if the Government is able find guns that were hidden in your home, you’d still have some firepower buried in the wilderness.
It’s hard to know how things might play out so it’s best to diversify your efforts and hope that even in the worst case scenarios you still have some form of protection.
You can also diversity with a survival bow or cross bow. They are extremely powerful and are currently not being regulated like firearms.
– Jack
Lt Col Mark Mayerstein says
Most body armor only covers the torso, not face, arms, or legs. So either get to the range more and practice until you can hit a face-size target more often than not from within 50 feet (the IDPA competitors do this on a routine basis) or use a 12 ga shotgun with shortened barrel as your home defense weapon of choice. It has decent range, and though the pellet pattern won’t be very big @50 feet, it’s still much bigger than a 9mm or 223 footprint.
Big joe says
Ever hear of armor piercing rounds ? High powered rounds ? Last i checked their heads werent protected with nothing but a helmet you have to remember cops would be targeted too i have but a shotgun to clay bird shoot . You want that ? Fine take it ill just find another way to get one . Its not ever going to happen it would take millions upon millions of dollars amd man hrs
Jim Shock says
Afraid I might be in the first group. Would hate to give away the full autos, but my name is all over the BATFE records. If these and other “assault rifles” are stashed, what can I say to stay out of handcuffs when I refuse to “co-operate”? Years ago I decided to trade my inherited weapons, of all different calibers, for others of same caliber for easier consolidation. In doing so I have more registered guns than not. In hindsight, not such a good idea. IF the order come down to confiscate, the best thing is to leave the house that has some “throw-aways” and head for the hills. Some back woods shack or purchased army surplus GPS (general purpose, small) tent and camo netting might do. Any Ideas?
Red Dog says
Good comments, but I have one question: You talk about building your own AR – but anyone who has actually done that knows you have to get the lower receiver from an FFL. And, to do that, you have to go through the same steps as just buying a gun.
So, how are you going to build an AR without it going through the fed process?
A better way – buy it from a private individual (think gun show, but not the big booths), no background check required. But hurry, Obama wants to seal that route up.
Seadooit says
No you don’t, you go by way of an 80% lower and mill it yourself. You don’t need an FFL permit and it won’t have a serial number or be registered.
Big joe says
Its called a stripped lower no serial number
Sore Loser says
Saw a poster one time I agree with … When they come to take my guns … I will comply … But I will let them have the lead first !!!
Bill says
To Red Dog: You can buy an “80% lower receiver” without going through an FFL, finish the milling and voila, you have a brand spanking new, unregistered AR-15 lower. You can do this with a number of different firearms platforms. I’ve personally milled 3 80% lower receivers and all are fully functional, safe, and I’ve been firing them for years.
Max Grimes says
Is it difficult to mill your own receiver?
Just In Case Jack says
Depends on how much experience you have with milling…
For someone who’s got a bit of tooling and milling experience, it’s fairly straightforward. For those who are afraid of simple DIY projects, it’s a major undertaking.
I recommend you watch this video and if this video overwhelms you, then its best to find someone else who can do this project for you. If you watch and feel confident you could do it then go for it!
Ben Franklin says
You guys clearly have the right mindset but go not quite far enough in the strategy, since this is not that fake “war on terror”, but war on me and you! This is a marathon and they know they will win in the long run, for sure. However, since they intend to disarm us like slaves, there is plenty of justification to extract a cost from them while they are doing it, They will do whatever illegal, unconstitutional and repressive measure they can to us, BECAUSE THEY CAN, and the Obama gang have created false flag after false flag to create the pretext. Quid pro quo, we ought to do likewise to them. One way to irk is hit them straight in the wallet at every opportunity. There’s no need to paint a picture here is there.
Gido says
Based on what I’ve seen in the recent past, and after a declaration of gun confiscation is announced, it wouldn’t surprise me to see government imposters arriving at doors to confiscate guns with the intent of doing harm. I’m not so willing to give up my guns considering this, but some of the items I’ve read hear a great ideas. I’ll probably employ some of these, but I will have some guns and ammo available in the event of an attempted home invasion by imposters.
RESISTANCE says
Winston Churchill said it best I think channeling his inner George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine. ” We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender”.
The US military has enough common sense not to follow unconstitutional and unlawful orders. Not so sure about the Feds, or local law enforcement. They eat this crap up for breakfast. Better that we all die standing on our feet, fighting tooth and nail as proud patriots of this country than turn it over to Democratic liberal tyranny and oppression without one hell of a fight.
Maybe the time has come for a Second American Revolution. With 700,000 registered hunters. and over 3 million registered gun owners, the Fed should think long and hard about confiscation. Kommiefornia, Gulag New York, Assachusetts, and Ferryland are doomed to be bastions of liberal stupidity. When door to door confiscation starts as it already has in Kommiefornia, we will need to remove all of the criminal, unconstitutional law passing scumbags at the top by any means necessary.
God Bless America !
David Dixon says
For me it’s a no brainer. I have hidden several stashes of weapons that have been handed down for generations. These guns have both sentimental as well as monetary value and belong to my heirs, not to the govt! Also I have many health issues including inoperable cancer so it doesn’t matter much to me if I die fighting for my right to bear arms so I will fight and take out as many of them as possible. I know I don’t stand a chance in the long run but I can set an example for my children and grandchildren to always fight tyranny. My children will know where to look for the weapons, but no one else knows. They won’t find them in a hundred years and they are very well protected from the elements.
Just In Case Jack says
Sounds like you’ve got your plan in place David. Thanks for inspiring us to get our plans in place asap.
michael jones says
Wel you all have great ideas. But let me toss this idea oug there to you. Obama and hillery and bill clinton these guys take tneir orders from a higher power and they are told to convence us. Id say go after the head of the snake or heads. Tne rockefellors and george soros, wallstreet.take these guys out and the snake will have no teeth. Hit and run gueruilla tactics will wearthem down. Take out road bridges and do tnings like catch a jar full of black widow spiders and dump them in the sleeping quarters of the enemy. This will get in their minds and tney will lose sleep . Get sloppy and make mistakes. Tart by sendinging messages ur taking out all political and enforcemnet officers and everyone will be scared. Remember red dawn on tv. Hell yes. Just a thought
Alex Davidoff says
The idea drafted by Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the founding fathers is probably the greatest piece of written word to ever define the relations of humans and society. Too bad it’s only valid as a museum exhibition these days. As one great, unknown to you man, once said, America is not a country – it’s a corporation. The few left to still believe and take it as a country the way it was meant some 200 years ago fall within the statistical error. You have lost the battle years ago and don’t even dare entertain the idea it’s reversible. And your guns are your last problem…
dwest says
I’m pretty sure the gubmint can read this website… while on the surface it “seems like” good advice, it isn’t. The feds are not as interested in your stuff as they are in YOU. you are the livestock and herd animals from which this out of control federal gov’t harvests its resources. to them taking firearms and other weapons is like tooth extraction. and if a few of us die in the process, whatever. I for one would rather go out Guns Blazing.. how did Jar-jar binks put it? better dead here than dead at the core. imagine the grueling slow death of imprisonment and then come at me with some lame cooked-up “advice” about burying firearms. what use are those weapons if you are not free to go get them!?? if you can’t beat them, fight to the death.
Eightcoveffe says
While it is a good idea to appear to be complying; to give the grabbers anything tends to encourage the mindset of “if they have that …They have more.” leading to more aggressive/invasive searches. Whilst the ideas suggested are acceptable they fall short of being good places against trained professionals. A tip I suggest to beat the pros. Your best bet is to play against someone’s laziness & similar.
Dave says
I believe the only smart solution is partial or complete compliance. I know that some Patriots want to go out “guns blazing” but that’s just throwing your life away for no good reason. The only way to beat tyranny is to stay alive long enough to organize against it. Even if you’re some super badass, how long do you think you’ll last against the government? I mean they have tanks, Apache helicopters, RPGS..50 cal machine guns, etc… You’ll just make it less likely for them to miss any guns at the next guys house. If you are that much of a badass… stick around..help us mount a well organized revolution against the bastards..
Cbob says
What will end up happening is this.
They will pull you over or get you at some kind of checkpoint. From there they will arrest you. While you are in jail, they will take all your guns. The govt. is very smart, they won’t just show up with a couple local cops and hope you give in. They will hit you in a way to where you are defenseless. There will never be a “I’ll die in a pile of empty brass” situation.. just my 2 cents.
Better to hide a few sbr ar15s with silencers and plenty of ammo.
biffula says
“seal with duct tape” Never try and seal anything with duct tape. It doesn’t seal well and it loses its adhesiveness over time. I know it’s cute to say you can fix anything with duct tape but reality is much different. Duct tape is pretty worthless for anything long term.
Just In Case Jack says
You may be right about old standard duct tape but the lasted versions of it (T-REX Ferociously Strong Duct Tape) are impressive.
I’ve never performed a long-term test with this stuff (that would take decades) but it’s designed for the long haul and wet conditions in mind.